Some Like It (Very) Hot: Prof Jan Rosenow on Decarbonising ‘Hard to Abate’ Industries

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Last Updated: Jul 25, 2025

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Some Like It (Very) Hot: Prof Jan Rosenow on Decarbonising ‘Hard to Abate’ Industries

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If we broadly know how to decarbonise surface transport and domestic heating, what about the ‘hard to abate’ sectors such as steel making and chemicals? Today I’m joined by the (freshly be-chaired) Professor Jan Rosenow of Oxford University to talk through the decarbonisation of these sectors and, in particular, their scope for electrification. Here’s what we discuss:

The scope for electrification of low, medium and high temperature processes
Novel technologies including high temperature heat pumps and electro-thermal storage
Energy efficiency and the rebound effect (aka Jevons Paradox)
How electrification can be 4-5x more efficient than gas but how the ‘spark gap’ is hindering progress
Jan’s top 4 policy asks to decarbonise heavy industry

The excellent Some Like It Hot report that Jan co-wrote (and I used as a cheat sheet during our discussion) is available here.

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